“Never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.” — Winston Churchill
(There should be a comma after IN. And, this is only a segment of the much larger quote where he was essentially rebuking the appeasement policy of his predecessor Prime Ministers. Everyone kind of dumps on Neville Chamberlain, but he was continuing the same policy of his predecessors. Ironically, we are now in the midst of a kind of appeasement with Saudi Arabia. We’ve put up with their human rights violations for quite a long time, because of various oil and arms deals, and because of their supposed status as being an “ally”. But, can we seriously allow them to get away with murdering an American citizen??? Currently, it’s still an “alleged murder”, but it does appear to be so. I’ve been extremely leery of Saudi Arabia ever since 9/11/2001. Things have only gotten worse since their involvement in the civil war in Yemen. With friends like this . . . who needs enemies? Be well and do good, friends.) — YUR
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Mr Khashoggi was not a citizen but a U S resident who came here and was hired by an American news company when his government made his presence there too “uncomfortable”.
His alleged murder is hardly new in U S foreign policy. We’ve turned our heads quite a few times when popular dissidents were inconvenient to our foreign policy: the assignation of popularly and fairly elected presidents in Chile, South Vietnam, Africa, Asia, etc, when they made policies that benefit the welfare of their people rather than policies to benefit our narrow corporate interests.
If this occurred ten or more years ago, there might have been quiet diplomatic rebukes against the Saudis and only the news junkies would’ve paid attention.
If it had been another president, one who hadn’t made such a big deal over the grand reception he received during his visit there, maybe the rebuke of the crown prince and his minions might been greater.
But, this is what we got; this is what we’re stuck with.
My bad on citing him as a citizen! Yes, he was merely a resident, but working for an American newspaper gets him pretty close to being an American. But, don’t go mixing apples with oranges, lwc. This is a little different than killing your average dissident. He did make one HUGE blunder though that cost him his life. Why would he EVER step foot in a Saudi embassy/consulate knowing that it is considered Saudi “soil”??? — YUR
Yes, it is a mystery that he would go to any Saudi facility.
Maybe he thought as long as he wasn’t in Arabia he would be safe.
But, even going anyplace in Turkey might be shady.
Don’t the Saudis have consulates everywhere ?
Wasn’t he working in France for an American company; why not go to a Saudi office there ?
That’s’ the explanation I’m waiting for.
His family probably knows, but they haven’t been reported, yet.
I just heard a clue why he went to Turkey.
His fiancée is from there. He must have needed something for her.
How unfortunate for them.
May God help us all.
I don’t have any problem with him going to Turkey, lwc. It’s the going into ANY Saudi embassy/consulate that is the puzzling aspect. Every embassy/consulate is considered the domain of that country, regardless which country it is located in. So, in effect, he walked into the lion’s den, like a lamb to the slaughter. Not a very wise move, especially in retrospect. At the very least he should have brought his fiancée with him, but most sensible people would have not gone in there at all. — YUR